Mythdoll vs. Bobobie Discussion

leroi · 02-08-2007, 05:56 PM

Dear all, Sorry to interrupt you.We found this message late.
We greatly regret that dennis decided to assisted the pirate when he left MythDOLL.
Look at the Bobobie doll,the pirate change some details but keep the most important parts.It was so disappointing to found the fact.

leroi · 02-08-2007, 05:56 PM

Dear all, Sorry to interrupt you.We found this message late.
We greatly regret that dennis decided to assisted the pirate when he left MythDOLL.
Look at the Bobobie doll,the pirate change some details but keep the most important parts.It was so disappointing to found the fact.

PrincessAI436 · 02-08-2007, 06:02 PM

Leroi, are you saying that these dolls are copies off yours?

HappyBentoKid · 02-08-2007, 06:03 PM

(+_+)"' Leroi, I think you should inform the DOA moderators about this issue...

Quote:

Originally Posted by leroi

Dear all, Sorry to interrupt you.We found this message late.
We greatly regret that dennis decided to assisted the pirate when he left MythDOLL.
Look at the Bobobie doll,the pirat change some details but keep the most important parts.It was so disappointing to found the fact.

PrincessAI436 · 02-08-2007, 06:05 PM

yes, i think so too.

MahouBunnyBell · 02-08-2007, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leroi

Dear all, Sorry to interrupt you.We found this message late.
We greatly regret that dennis decided to assisted the pirate when he left MythDOLL.
Look at the Bobobie doll,the pirate change some details but keep the most important parts.It was so disappointing to found the fact.

I have suspected this was the case with several of their dolls. You should defianantly PM this to the mods. They don't allow pirated dolls on this board, and would ban their discussion here, something that would at the very least affect the sales of a pirated dolls.

PrincessAI436 · 02-08-2007, 06:19 PM

I pm'ed ashbet a minute ago, anyone is free to contact the others.

Ashbet · 02-08-2007, 06:27 PM

Thank you -- I got the message and have passed it on to the other mods, and we're now discussing it.

Leroi, did you personally sculpt Wujee? Or did a sculptor who works for you make her? Just trying to establish which dolls were sculpted by whom, so that we have all the information.

This is a serious accusation and will be pursued immediately.

Thanks,

-- Andi <3

leroi · 02-08-2007, 06:28 PM

Dear all,Thank you for all your help.

I am so awfully sorry that this has occurred.

The pirate copy whole mythdoll and wishel at first, and change details (some thing like cut the waist joint , add the knee joint etc.)again and again because of lack of public support.That's why the bobobie doll look different from mythdoll now.And that's why bobobie doll have all types of BJD but nobody knows before.
The pirate will not give up the copy, They did this since June 2006 on the mainland of China.
The sale of pirate doll has been banned in china, but now they are trying to sell it in DOA.

Andi, so nice to hear you again, I sculpt wujee my self.

Daisuke Andou · 02-09-2007, 10:50 AM

I really hope all of this gets sorted out.

Its a shame that anyone would copy doll molds.
The Wujee is a very pretty doll and shouldnt be pirated and taken from its sculpter.
(Beautiful job Leroi ^ ^ )
Good luck with all that is going on.

Renzi · 02-09-2007, 11:38 AM

I knew I was right!

(Even though she was in no way as beautiful as the original.)

And I have to say, thank you to Leroi for being the one to create my little girl.

lulupikaboo · 02-09-2007, 12:11 PM

People should really be more critical and careful with new companies like...
boo...bobobie. (unprofessional behavior and the pictures where a BIG give away)

People get a little too exited and buy anything. If you have the money great but be careful who you are supporting.

There has to be a way to screen companies before they start selling on DOA.
They can't just pop out of no where and sale us garbage.

MieAga · 02-09-2007, 04:55 PM

BoBobie started their hype before the new requirements at the Marketplace. Still, I don't see how it's DoA job to pre-qualify everyone and I could honestly see where it would hurt/hinder potential doll makers.

Whats that old saying, 'Innocent until proven guilty'. Bad people are out there, but there are a lot more good people than bad. All we can do is be aware, and respond to theft when the proper evidence is presented.

Amee · 02-09-2007, 05:25 PM

Bobobie would keep silent and leave moderators to judge. Bobobie would not in any way be improper. But it has to say something.

Bobobie never pirates any doll. All dolls are created by Bobobie artists. Bobobie has her own unique character: sweet, big eyes, movable waist, and some other new innovations. We have our capacity to create, there is no need to pirate. And you will find more new innovation and new dolls in the days to come. If we say Mythdoll copied VOLKS, DOD or LATI, how is it to explain itself?

Bobobie would like to cooperate with DOA moderators for a JUDGE.

www.bobobie.com

Renzi · 02-09-2007, 07:26 PM

If you say that Mythdoll copied other doll companies, then I say you're just trying to distract others from your own wrong doing.

Your company doesn't even take enough pride in you dolls to photograph them professionally; it looks as if you really don't care how they look. I guess you realized that no matter what the dolls look like, if they are cheap enough, someone will take that opportunity.

It's interesting that you and Dennis wrote the exact same thing in both related threads.

And why should DOA members trust you instead of Leroi? She has managed her own business and has had many satisfied customers, while Bobobie mysteriously sold out of Sweet as soon as the similarities of her and Wujee were pointed out. Not only sold out, but took orders from DOA members that they canceled due to this "first customer".

sat · 02-11-2007, 03:09 PM

I have been following this thread carefully as I just recently purchased a Wishel secondhand that I am absolutely in love with. After having received my little tiny baby I was more than dismayed to see that the Bobobie Erin looks almost identical to her. It is as if my baby had a frown instead of a smile and suddenly had her torso cut in half. I don't like to scream piracy in pretty much ANY case, but unfortunately the resemblances are a bit too much for me. I have done a comparison photo for those who would like to, can view. I think the photo speaks for itself but I am not always sure in these cases. I leave it up to others to be the judge.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...comparison.jpg

littlepinkfaery · 02-11-2007, 03:18 PM

I think the eye, head and lip shape a different. They look similar and maybe they could share an original mould but maybe not...difficult to tell

babytarragon · 02-11-2007, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sat

I have been following this thread carefully as I just recently purchased a Wishel secondhand that I am absolutely in love with. After having received my little tiny baby I was more than dismayed to see that the Bobobie Erin looks almost identical to her. It is as if my baby had a frown instead of a smile and suddenly had her torso cut in half. I don't like to scream piracy in pretty much ANY case, but unfortunately the resemblances are a bit too much for me. I have done a comparison photo for those who would like to, can view. I think the photo speaks for itself but I am not always sure in these cases. I leave it up to others to be the judge.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...comparison.jpg

The Bobobie pictures aren't very clear so it's kinda hard to tell...

Could you possible take a photo of your Wishel from a similar angle as a photo of Erin? That would be more revealing.

sat · 02-11-2007, 04:04 PM

Ok, you are by far asking for the impossible. It is impossible to take something at EXACTLY the same angle but at the same time I am probably the world's worst photography. However I have TRIED to do what you have asked for. You can view it here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...omparison2.jpg

babytarragon · 02-11-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sat

Ok, you are by far asking for the impossible. It is impossible to take something at EXACTLY the same angle but at the same time I am probably the world's worst photography. However I have TRIED to do what you have asked for. You can view it here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...omparison2.jpg

That's why I said 'a similar angle'. Sorry if I was unclear.

I think your comparison photo will be really useful. You can definately see the similarity in it. The face is very similar indeed.

02-08-2007, 05:56 PM	#1
leroi Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 10	Dear all, Sorry to interrupt you.We found this message late. We greatly regret that dennis decided to assisted the pirate when he left MythDOLL. Look at the Bobobie doll,the pirate change some details but keep the most important parts.It was so disappointing to found the fact. Last edited by leroi; 02-08-2007 at 06:06 PM.

02-08-2007, 06:27 PM	#8
Ashbet Foxy Seraphim Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Doom City, USA Posts: 7,887	Thank you -- I got the message and have passed it on to the other mods, and we're now discussing it. Leroi, did you personally sculpt Wujee? Or did a sculptor who works for you make her? Just trying to establish which dolls were sculpted by whom, so that we have all the information. This is a serious accusation and will be pursued immediately. Thanks, -- Andi <3 __________________ <-- Click for Dollhouse My Flickr Doll Gallery FS: BambiCrony Cookie/Kumi w/Morbidollz & Batchix face-ups!

02-08-2007, 06:28 PM	#9
leroi Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 10	Dear all,Thank you for all your help. I am so awfully sorry that this has occurred. The pirate copy whole mythdoll and wishel at first, and change details (some thing like cut the waist joint , add the knee joint etc.)again and again because of lack of public support.That's why the bobobie doll look different from mythdoll now.And that's why bobobie doll have all types of BJD but nobody knows before. The pirate will not give up the copy, They did this since June 2006 on the mainland of China. The sale of pirate doll has been banned in china, but now they are trying to sell it in DOA. Andi, so nice to hear you again, I sculpt wujee my self. Last edited by leroi; 02-09-2007 at 03:25 AM.

02-09-2007, 10:50 AM	#10
Daisuke Andou Apple Sparck Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mid. TN Posts: 48	I really hope all of this gets sorted out. Its a shame that anyone would copy doll molds. The Wujee is a very pretty doll and shouldnt be pirated and taken from its sculpter. (Beautiful job Leroi ^ ^ ) Good luck with all that is going on. __________________ I never have much to say.... ....I just say things worth saying.

02-09-2007, 11:38 AM	#11
Renzi Aisha Voya. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 457	I knew I was right! (Even though she was in no way as beautiful as the original.) And I have to say, thank you to Leroi for being the one to create my little girl. __________________

02-08-2007, 06:02 PM	#3
PrincessAI436 Is getting married! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,759	Leroi, are you saying that these dolls are copies off yours?

02-08-2007, 06:05 PM	#5
PrincessAI436 Is getting married! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,759	yes, i think so too.

02-08-2007, 06:19 PM	#7
PrincessAI436 Is getting married! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,759	I pm'ed ashbet a minute ago, anyone is free to contact the others.

02-09-2007, 12:11 PM	#12
lulupikaboo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 455	People should really be more critical and careful with new companies like... boo...bobobie. (unprofessional behavior and the pictures where a BIG give away) People get a little too exited and buy anything. If you have the money great but be careful who you are supporting. There has to be a way to screen companies before they start selling on DOA. They can't just pop out of no where and sale us garbage. __________________

02-09-2007, 04:55 PM	#13
MieAga Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,666	BoBobie started their hype before the new requirements at the Marketplace. Still, I don't see how it's DoA job to pre-qualify everyone and I could honestly see where it would hurt/hinder potential doll makers. Whats that old saying, 'Innocent until proven guilty'. Bad people are out there, but there are a lot more good people than bad. All we can do is be aware, and respond to theft when the proper evidence is presented. __________________ All animaBJDs welcome Feedback

02-09-2007, 05:25 PM	#14
Amee Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9	Bobobie would keep silent and leave moderators to judge. Bobobie would not in any way be improper. But it has to say something. Bobobie never pirates any doll. All dolls are created by Bobobie artists. Bobobie has her own unique character: sweet, big eyes, movable waist, and some other new innovations. We have our capacity to create, there is no need to pirate. And you will find more new innovation and new dolls in the days to come. If we say Mythdoll copied VOLKS, DOD or LATI, how is it to explain itself? Bobobie would like to cooperate with DOA moderators for a JUDGE. www.bobobie.com

02-09-2007, 07:26 PM	#15
Renzi Aisha Voya. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 457	If you say that Mythdoll copied other doll companies, then I say you're just trying to distract others from your own wrong doing. Your company doesn't even take enough pride in you dolls to photograph them professionally; it looks as if you really don't care how they look. I guess you realized that no matter what the dolls look like, if they are cheap enough, someone will take that opportunity. It's interesting that you and Dennis wrote the exact same thing in both related threads. And why should DOA members trust you instead of Leroi? She has managed her own business and has had many satisfied customers, while Bobobie mysteriously sold out of Sweet as soon as the similarities of her and Wujee were pointed out. Not only sold out, but took orders from DOA members that they canceled due to this "first customer". __________________

02-11-2007, 03:09 PM	#16
sat Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 461	I have been following this thread carefully as I just recently purchased a Wishel secondhand that I am absolutely in love with. After having received my little tiny baby I was more than dismayed to see that the Bobobie Erin looks almost identical to her. It is as if my baby had a frown instead of a smile and suddenly had her torso cut in half. I don't like to scream piracy in pretty much ANY case, but unfortunately the resemblances are a bit too much for me. I have done a comparison photo for those who would like to, can view. I think the photo speaks for itself but I am not always sure in these cases. I leave it up to others to be the judge. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...comparison.jpg __________________ Mohair Wigs and Doll Clothing

02-11-2007, 03:18 PM	#17
littlepinkfaery Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In a house full of dolls! (UK) Posts: 1,312	I think the eye, head and lip shape a different. They look similar and maybe they could share an original mould but maybe not...difficult to tell __________________ Doll hair falls/ dread wigs/ fur wigs- all sizes http://doll.littlepinkfaery.co.uk click my banner...you know you wanna I own too many dolls...is that even possible?

02-11-2007, 04:04 PM	#19
sat Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 461	Ok, you are by far asking for the impossible. It is impossible to take something at EXACTLY the same angle but at the same time I am probably the world's worst photography. However I have TRIED to do what you have asked for. You can view it here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...omparison2.jpg __________________ Mohair Wigs and Doll Clothing