Volks Mini Super Dollfie Discussion (MSD) Part 1

[ginarolo]

This is a discussion for Mini Super Dollfie.

Msd Photo thread
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=286302

Volks MSD Wiki:
http://www.denofangels.com/doawiki/i..._Super_Dollfie

Help with Stringing

http://site.volksusa.com/sumikatimes...sd-kit-part-1/
(Assembling Msd Help with Stringing )

http://site.volksusa.com/sumikatimes...kips-can-help/
(Adding Kips Disc for posing)

http://site.volksusa.com/sumikatimes...sd-kit-part-2/
(Tighten string)

http://site.volksusa.com/sumikatimes...rt-3-optional/
(removing seam lines)

Building Older MSd kit:
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...89#post7922789
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Measurements:
Volks MSD Girl

Height ......Head circumference....Neck circumference.....Chest/Bust.....Shoulder width
43 cm.......20 cm.......................7.5 cm........................18 cm.................7 cm

Waist...........Hip..........Arm length No hands.......Wrist
14.5 cm.......19 cm......13.5 cm...........................5.2 cm

More measurements here:
http://tennyoacademy.com/sdtypes/msd

Shoes:
MSD Feet are roughly 5.5 cm long. 2.5 cm wide


Clothes and Shoes that fit
Dollheart:
http://www.dollheart.com/web/home.htm
Luts: Kid Delf size fits MSD
http://eluts.com/
Ajumapama:
http://www.ajumapamausa.com/
http://www.ajumapama.com/

http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...rs#post6656022

Optional Ears:

http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...rs#post5914833
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ars#post530942

FCS SD ears on a MSD:
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...91#post7902191

Old body compared to new body
http://leeke.sephdraven.com/omake/cmp/01.htm

Boy body, Girl small bust, Girl medium bust
http://siamese.lolipop.jp/msdfullcho.htm

Msd compared to Sdc

Sdc Sweet Dreams Kaede and Msd Midori/ head swap/ body comparison
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=325249

Volks SDC girl body next to MSD girl body
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showpost.php?p=69877

Volks Sdc boy body next to MSD boy body and posing
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=263423

MSd head on SDC body Hybrid
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=150006

Msd hands compared to SDC hands:
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...63#post8509563

More Msd hands on Sdc and SDC hands on MSd body
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...63#post8509563

Volks Msd compared to other mini sized dolls
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...72#post9355572

Volks Msd compared to other mini sized dolls
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?521473

Volks Msd compared to Kaye Wiggs, Tonner Ellowynne Wilde
Kaye Wiggs Mini, Volks Msd, Jakzjewelz Lierre Mini, Tonner Ellowynne
http://www.jakzjewelz.com/compare.jpg

Kaye Wiggs Annabella compared to Volks MSD F-18
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...=1#post6002780

Volks SDC, Volks MSD (oldskin white), WS TinyFairy (blossom), WS TinyFairy (girl), Unoa
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...&postcount=473

Volks Msd Enn Compared to Fairyland MNF Chiwoo, Blue Fairy Premium "At Your Service" WS Jerome, Blue Fairy TF Tommy:
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...04#post9355504

Msd Boy body (long legs) next Angel Region Little Fair Boy next to DoC boy
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...46&postcount=5

Angel Region Little Fair boy next to Volks MSd Girl, DoC girl
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...46&postcount=5

Lati Blue Boy Rei, Volks Msd Hewitt, Angel Studio F-Nicety Vera Girl
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/starbolins/COMP02.php

Volks Msd Hewitt, Angell-Studio F-Nicety Vera girl, Unoa B-el Boy
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/starbolins/COMP03.php

LatiBlue Boy Rei on the A-type body, Volks Msd Hewitt Boy
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/starbolins/COMP01.php

Volks Msd old type girl body/Blue Fairy/DoC boy/Kid Delf
http://no-gentlemen.net/sdc.php?details=msd


Msd and Sdc heads on non volks bodies:
http://denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92612

Volks Heads on Doll Chateau bodies (female and male nudes)
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...=1#post9417216

Head Mold Number
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=219045

Msd Photo thread
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=286302

Super Dollfie Cute (SDC) discussion thread
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=16778

Super Dollfie Midi discussion thread
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...fie-Discussion

****Volks MSd Databases****

MSD Enn Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=103965

MSD Hewitt Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=49379

MSD Ken/Mika Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?p=552402

MSD Manabu Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=63183

MSD MSD Myu/Sakura/Maggie Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36311

MSD Margaret and Rock Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=55996

MSD Maria/Schulze Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=25838

MSD Midori Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=63183

Picture thread Msd MiiChan and Taachan
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=228938

MSD Nagisa Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=125050

MSD Toppi Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=26730

MSD Tsubaki Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=11148

MSD Yuni Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=37742

MSD FCS F03 Mario/Marie Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=49027

MSD FCS F-04 Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=120554

MSD FCS F-05 Database
?

MSD FCS F-06 Phyllis/Lillith/Noel Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?304622

MSD FCS F-08 Picture request
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...=1#post4430451

MSD FCS F-09 Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=46083

MSD FCS F-10 Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh....php?p=1085502

MSd FCS F-12 / Shinsiya and Misiya Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?p=908365

MSD FCS F-13 Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=35331

MSd FCS F-14 Hisui/Kohaku Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=54555

MSD FCS F-16 Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=188840

MSd FCS F-17 Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=230741

MSd FCS F-18 Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=195045

MSd FCS F-20 Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=205677

MSd FCS F-21 and F-22 Database
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=220938

"Where Angels Lie"
Cassiel has pictures and info on all the Volks releases of Mini Super Dollfie

http://www.angelden.net/volks/msd/index.php

Cassiel made an awesome website on Volks Full Choice System called:
"Creating Dreams."
Great section on FCS MSd.
http://www.angelden.net/fcs/fcs-msd.html

Guide to ordering FCS:
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=168913

Volks Mini Super Dollfie Discussion (MSD) Part 1:
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/sh...09#post2990309

[Dollightful]

Hello,

I just bought a previously owned Volks le msd Yuni doll. First version. She is my first bjd doll purchase! (Except for a custom Shiwoo head..not a total doll.)
I am so excited!

Can anyone tell me anything about her? The previous owner did not know. When did she come out? How was she sold? Any info or links? I am curious. I have seen some threads on the second version doll, but not the first. Anyone have the first version? I hope to get her soon.

Thanks,
Kris

[NabeeRain]

Ooo..ok. I believe she was sold only at a dolpa (I will try an find the number). Her default outfit I believe include a plaid skirt thing. Her body was the old style MSD body and does not have the cute bending knee thing that the second Yuni has. She was produced in smaller quantities than the second version (Volks never really tells you exactly HOW many of each limited they make). She came out before Dolpa 11 (which took place about 3 1/2 years ago I believe) but I am not sure how long before.
Uh, that is all I know. I hope it is all right! ^_^

[PippaGirl]

Congratulations! I am glad to see another Yuni owner on the boards! *Is in the process of completing her own Yuni 2*. All I know about the first is basically that she's the same mold as the 1-off "antique" MSD. Sorry I couldn't be of more help! I'm sure you'll be really happy with her though! The Yuni head mold is adorable. There is a tiny line of info( the same as I told you) and several piccies of her at the SD Types page of DOA here: http://denofangels.com/msd/msdlimited.html

[usagi665]

I don't have much more info to add, unfortunately, but here is my page for her. And like Shan said, she's normal skin, not white.

[Dollightful]

Oh Wow!! I did not expect so much so soon! Thank you all soooo much! I really appreciate it!!
One thing is the owner said she was a normal pureskin. I guess she may not be a pureskin though, but rather what you call an old skin. What is the difference? Or I can look that up.
I love to see the original release photos. Oh, thanks usagi665 for your detailed info and all the photos of her in different wig styles. That is fun to see.
What is a one off?
Congrats PippaGirl for getting your Yuni soon too!

[Mayuka13]

First off, congratulations on your new doll! She's a adorably cute and you will love her! <3 I have the 1st edition MSD Yuni. I had purchased mine second hand from someone else who use to be on the boards.

Actually Nabeerain, you are incorrect. She is NOT white skinned. She was an LE release specifically for the Seoul, Korea grand opening along with the SD 13 boy Kai.

I believe she came out right around November of 2004. She is normal skin color, old skin type (not pureskin), has old MSD styled body. I'm not sure who designed her make up. I am assuming its "Zoukeimura" (my Kanji skills are limited so forgive me if its incorrect). According to her certificate papers it says that it was an "airbrushed make up."

Her outfit includes: a black floppy hat, white blouse w/ black lace trim, red w/ black gingham print capri pants, a pleated over-skirt attached with silver belt jewelry (with stars & moon charms), black tie, black boots, HG glass eyes in 14mm cadet blue (technically grey colored), and a Volks wig W-87 (in a #16T cream which is a light brown color).

There have speculation in the past that her head mold was first used in the "antique styled" one offs. She has also been compared with the FCS Sato-exclusive headmold the F-05. They have remarkably similar features. I think their only differences are the F-05's mouth is shaped differently.

Hope this info helps!

[shan]

One thing is the owner said she was a normal pureskin. I guess she may not be a pureskin though, but rather what you call an old skin. What is the difference? Or I can look that up.

Hello again. ^_^ Well, if the owner said she is pureskin, and she is, then she would have to be a 2nd version Yuni.

The difference in oldskin and pureskin resin is the texture. Oldskin is opaque, a slightly paler shade of flesh, and, in my opinion, a little hardier. Pureskin is slightly translucent, very pretty to photograph, and has a lovely matte texture. I have dolls in both resin types and I like them both. ^_^

Pureskin dolls are newer and so have the newer body types, with modifications such as locking knees to help with standing, tabs to help with sitting. It is generally accepted that pureskin is easier to pose (most people prefer it), but some people do prefer oldskin for the ability to take on more fluid poses. There is also a type of girl body which is only available in pureskin: the suwarriko body, which is modified to be able to sit prettily with the legs sprawled. For completeness' sake, Yuni 2nd has the pureskin suwarriko body, while Yuni 1st has the oldskin standard girl body.

There are slight sculpt differences between pureskin and oldskin as well, such as the knees (pureskin has more detailed knees).

Finally, pureskin dolls have the easy-change hand/foot system, which, in my opinion, is their biggest advantage. This system makes it a snap to change their hands and feet out for other optional parts. I'm very fond of my oldskin boy, but I do wish he had the selection of hands my pureskin dolls have!

Sorry for being so wordy! I hope you found the info helpful, though.

What is a one off?

A one-off is a doll of an existing sculpt which one of the senior Volks artists specially paints and has outfitted (usually by a well-known dressmaker). They are sold by lottery in Volks stores in Japan as well as at Volks Dolpas (in Japan) and Tea Parties (in the USA).

[Shana-chan]

My input, as I owned a Yuni v. 2 for a short period of time;

Yuni's headmold is NOTHING like the MSD F-05 headmold. Yuni's head is very flat and pointy, while the F-05's head is similar to Mika's headmold, but with far, far rounder features.

A waaaay rounder, cute nose, pouty lips that actually protrude outwards rather than inwards (which is what Yuni's does), and far rounder, chubbier cheeks.

Sort of like comparing Ani to the new Somi that CP has.

I actually think that the F-05 looks like the F-07, except that the F-07's eyes turn sideways, and the mouth is open far more.

But this is my opinion, and others will probably disagree.

[Dollightful]

Oh, I got my Yuni in the mail today. Yeah!
Here is a photo of her in my avatar right now.
Thanks again everyone for your information. I am actually confused now though. The owner says she is a pureskin doll. I do not think she is a swarrico body? Doesn't swarrico look curvy grooved in the thigh ball joint? I see a groove that is straight in my doll. Her legs do lock in place. The owner thought first version came out in both oldskin and pureskin. Could that be? I got my doll nude without her outfit.
Unrelated-How do you keep the back cap of a head on snug? Can you tape it? With what tape? I twisty tied it on so it won't fall off back but it is not snug.
Do numbers on her head cap mean anything?
Thanks.

[shan]

Congrats, Kris! ^_^ She is very pretty. How are you liking her so far?

The owner says she is a pureskin doll. I do not think she is a swarrico body? Doesn't swarrico look curvy grooved in the thigh ball joint? I see a groove that is straight in my doll. Her legs do lock in place. The owner thought first version came out in both oldskin and pureskin.

The first version came out ages ago, before pureskin MSDs were even made. The only pureskin Yunis are Yuni 2nds. So, if she is Yuni 1st, she must be oldskin unless she is a Yuni 1st head on a different, newer body.

An easy way to tell: pull out her hand or leg. If you see an S-hook attaching to an eyehook embedded in the hand, it's a pureskin body. If you only see a curved hook embedded in the hand (no S-hook), it's an oldskin body.

How do you keep the back cap of a head on snug? Can you tape it? With what tape? I twisty tied it on so it won't fall off back but it is not snug.
Do numbers on her head cap mean anything?
Thanks.

Depends on her head cap. If she has the really old style of headcap, like the older MSD Kens, then most people are forced to use some sort of putty or tape.
If she has the "newer" oldskin headcap like my Hewitt (Dolpa 10), you just need to make sure the rubber band is snug. If you do a search in the forums, you can probably find pictures/suggestions. Use a short, thick band. What Volks does is to insert the band through the hole at the back, loop each side over the hook at the top, and then stretch the criss-crossing strands to hook onto the S-hook in the head. It works well for me.

As for the numbers, do you mean the number scratched inside the head/headcap, or the numbers on the gold Volks plate at the back of her head? The theory is that the former is the sculpt number (e.g. all MSD Enns have "13" in them). As for the Volks plate, for limited dolls such as Yuni, the numbers/letters usually indicate year, month, and dolpa of origin (e.g. my Hewitt has 03,12/DP10 for 2003, December, Dolpa 10).

[chantrune]

Does anyone know the measurements for a MSD with Tabi feet? (feet with the big toe spaced from the rest - so they can wear 'thong' sandals)

I need to know as soon as possible because I want to buy my little girl some shoes for when she arrives, but I don't know if the pair I've found on eBay will fit her.

The measurements the seller gave are:
7cm long
6.5 cm from the strap
3.5 cm tall

Any help would be much appreciated!
(Esp. if tabi feet will fit most other MSD sized shoes!)

EDIT: Thanks to everyone who answered!

[small_gecko]

I'm not at home now so I can't measure the feet, but they fit into any shoe that also fits non-tabi MSD feet. The space is created from "pushing" the other toes off to the side. Width and length-wise, they are the same as non-tabi feet.

The only issue with tabi feet not found in regular feet is that the big toe doesn't play nice with fishnet stockings.

[shan]

I agree with small_gecko, tabi feet fit well into most shoes that fit normal feet...I've only found a very slight difference when the shoes are very very snug.
As for the shoes you've found, they sound all right, but I can't be sure. Do you have a link to the shoes? Many MSD sneakers are around 7cm long, but the width is important, too.

[Celebare]

Roo fits into MSD-sized shoes fine, and he has tabi feet

[ginarolo]

I have both sets of MSD feet. The tabi feet are slightly longer and wider than the regular MSd feet. The toes are spread and that makes the foot wider at the toe.

Feet are roughly 5.5 cm long. 2.5 cm wide.

[snowleopard]

Silly question of the day...Do the MSD girl kits (Mika, Myu, Maggy, Hisui, Sakura) share the same head sculpt or are they all different? ...bad eyes...I can't tell...
Thank you for your help!

[rubijoux]

Magie/Myu/Sakura = MSD FCS F-01 = same head mold
Mika = MSD FCS F-02 = Ken (msd boy version)
Hisui = MSD FCS F-14 = Kohaku (msd boy version)

[AreeElf]

I'm actually waiting on an F13 Sunlight elf I ordered at Dolpa NY2. Ginarolo has the biggest collection I know of this headmold as an elf. She's supposed to arrive in September.

I took this photo of the f13 Sample at Dolpa NY

[Stella Maris]

I have an F13 with blue angel wing ears, her name is Kohana.